Welcome back to the Personality Hacker Podcast. My name is Joel Mark Witt.

And I'm Antonio Dodge.

This week we have a special guest back with us again in the studio.

Jonathan Harden is with us this week.

Jonathan, welcome.

Hello, hello.

If you remember Jonathan was on the show probably about a year ago.

Jonathan you talked about when you came on it was it was a very poignant episode I think

from my perspective we talked about the art of dying well you have years of hospice

nurse experience we talked about what the end of life looks like. We talked a little bit about

personality types and personal growth in that, but really tuned into a person's experience at the end of their life,

and I think it was a wonderful conversation. If you't heard that episode you're listening or watching right now

I encourage you go back and listen to like Jonathan's got a really it's a cool episode he's got a lot of good things to say and I think you'd really benefit from it but we're not here to talk about that this week

something a little different that it but we're not here to talk about that this week something a little

different that's right we're so a couple episodes ago myself and Antonia made a good attempt to

talk about a framework that you and I were talking about Jonathan you listen to it we even

mentioned you on the show you did think you did a great job.

We're going to get you for the details. No, and the podcast y'all did mention a little bit like we're

probably butchering this but I think you did a great job with the framework but I I liked that

podcast I love talking about the framework of four ways to diagnose your

problems using gameplay theory and story beats so yeah I'm excited about talking about it today.

Awesome so you'll you'll correct all the things that we said wrong. Yes. Not all the things.

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