This is a CBSI in the world with Peter Francopan, professor at Global History at Oxford University.

The new book is The Earth Transformed.

We come to 1870 to 1920. Modern enough for us to recognize the products but at the same time

rubber, following cotton, rubber trees.

The other products of cocoa and tobacco have been commonplace for several hundred years.

However, we now look for nitrates for fertilizer.

These are all English novels, and so I was shouting down.

The professor provided Lord Jim for the nitrates of Guano,

Lord Jim by Conrad. But he also mentions whale oil and I jotted in Herman Melville.

And Professor, I mentioned to you that I, in anticipation of my conversation with you about your book I went to the sign

of four the second of the Sherlock Holmes stories about a theft of diamonds and rubies from a Maharaja in India. This is following the so-called

mutiny of the mid-19th century and it is surprising to read Conan Doyle's interpretation of the world

from the Thames point of view from her Schuller-Kums's point of view considering what

you explicate in your presentation is how the British Empire

exploited and disdained and what at this point you'd have to say damage the cultures of so many peoples and it was all in keeping

with the power of the empire in 1870.

This was also true in the United States, It's also true in many European countries.

Is there a new appreciation for this now, Professor?

Has something happened because I don't remember this in my 20th century education?

That's a lovely question.

John, I'm enjoying myself so much.

I can feel as we're heading towards the late 19th century the

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