This is CBS I on the World with John Bachelor.

Here's John Bachelor.

The Earth Transform.

A new book, an extensive tour through Homo Sapiens and before,

mankind and the ecology of the earth.

We are in the 21st century, so this is a commonplace topic now, climate change.

However, I welcome Professor Peter Frankupan, Professor of Global History at Worcester College, Oxford,

whose no book is The Earth Transformed in Untold History, will begin in the Holocene with two violent

events to show that mankind responds to nature, responds to

catastrophe, responds to climate change, and gets lucky sometimes.

Professor, a very good evening to you.

Congratulations, we begin with the breakdown of the Ice Dam

in the Lorne Tide part of North America, which changed the ocean circulation and affected climate

globally.

And then also within the same time frame, seventh, eighth century, eighth, seventh millennium before the common era, the

collapse of a piece of the Norwegian coast that created its tsunami. Those two events, what do they describe? How do

they change the nature of mankind at that point responding to nature? Good

evening to you. Good evening.

It's a real pleasure.

Thank you so much for having me come and join you, John, and thank you all for listening and watching.

Well, I guess the starting point is that we've got so used in the modern era to being masters of our own destiny that we forget about these great forces in the human past and how important they are in our history and that includes things like volcanic eruptions of course going back long time before humans

asteroid impacts that got rid of the dinosaurs amongst other things. But sometimes single one-off events can come from

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