Apocalyptic Safe Spaces with Elizabeth Bruenig

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🗓️ 16 August 2019

⏱️ 55 minutes

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CW: Complex discussions of Christianity, Faith, and Catholicism’s scandals. Washington Post writer Elizabeth Bruenig (@ebruenig) joins Ana Marie Cox (@anamariecox) to explain the seemingly nonsensical evangelical support for Donald Trump. They delve into the suicide-pact between Trump and Jesus Country that seems rooted in apocalyptic nihilism, toxic absolutism, and a devastating cynicism about American politics. With a warmth and sympathy stemming from their own familial connections, Ana and Elizabeth explore this version of Christanity that seems disconnected from their own understanding. Elizabeth and Ana then share the ways they’ve learned to cope in the midst of these turbulent times, and ironically, how their faith helps them face the hopelessness of the headlines. Thanks to our sponsors! ARC is a new way to achieve professional-level teeth whitening at home for just 30 minutes a day. To help our listeners get a whiter, brighter smile, ARC is offering $15 off your purchase of a Blue Light kit when you visit Arcsmile.com and use promo code FRIENDS at checkout. Everlane only makes premium essentials, using the finest materials, without traditional markups. Right now, you can check out our personalized collection at Everlane.com/friends and get free shipping on your first order. Rothy’s are the everyday flats for life on the go. They’re stylish and versatile, and they go with everything from yoga pants to dresses and skirts. Rothy’s come in a wide range of colors and patterns, and they’re available in four different silhouettes. Plus, they’re constantly launching new styles, so you’re guaranteed to find a pair—or three—you love. Go to Rothys.com/wflt to get your new favorite flats.

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0:00.0	I'm going to jump in with a little bit of a content or trigger warning here.
0:04.9	Elizabeth and I don't just talk about evangelical Christianity and the abstract.
0:09.5	We both talk about our own faiths.
0:12.5	I know that Christianity has not been kind to a lot of people in the world.
0:17.6	It has been the source of a lot of destruction.
0:21.1	Well, I would say that the kind of Christianity I believe in is not a source of destruction in hatred,
0:25.5	but there have been people who have done horrible things in the name of Christianity.
0:31.0	And so if that is something that is going to get in the way of you being able to hear us
0:38.2	then come back another time.
0:40.8	We will be here.
0:42.4	And I also wanted to note that Elizabeth does mention somewhat in passing the Catholic
0:48.4	Church sex abuse scandal.
0:50.4	So if that is something that is going to get in the way of you being able to hear us,
0:56.1	note that is there.
0:58.8	But I think this is a good discussion.
1:01.4	Those of you who feel like you can do it, please join us.
1:07.7	Hi, I'm Anna Marie Cox and welcome to With Friends Like These where we talk about the
1:14.5	differences between us without letting them divide us.
1:18.9	Or in some cases, letting them divide us.
1:21.8	That is kind of the work of this particular episode.
1:25.4	We're going to be talking to Washington Post writer Elizabeth Brunig about a piece she
1:29.2	wrote this week, a long form piece of journalism.
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