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The Bunker

Apocalypse wow! Why are we so obsessed with the end of the world?

The Bunker

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News, Politics, Society & Culture, Government

4.6984 Ratings

🗓️ 21 May 2025

⏱️ 28 minutes

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Summary

From ancient Mayan prophecies to the QAnon faithful awaiting the next biblical storm, humanity has never been able to resist a good apocalypse. Today in The Bunker, Gavin Esler is joined by Tom Phillips, author of A Brief History of the End of the F**king World, to talk about asteroid anxiety, finding community in chaos, and why dreaming about doomsday might just be the ultimate form of escapism. • We are sponsored by Indeed. Go to https://indeed.com/bunker for £100 sponsored credit.   Buy A Brief History of the End of the F**king World through our affiliate bookshop and you’ll help fund The Bunker by earning us a small commission for every sale. https://bookshop.org/’s fees help support independent bookshops too. www.patreon.com/bunkercast  Follow us on BlueSky: https://bsky.app/profile/bunkerpod.bsky.social  Written and presented by Gavin Esler Producer: Liam Tait. Audio editors: Tom Taylor. Managing editor: Jacob Jarvis. Music by Kenny Dickinson. Group Editor: Andrew Harrison. THE BUNKER is a Podmasters Production. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:29.1

Hello and welcome to The Bunker. I'm Gavin Esler. A few years ago, I was lucky enough to film a BBC documentary on the Aleutian Islands. That's a remote part of Alaska stretching across the

0:33.9

North Pacific to within a few miles of Russia. The Aleutians are home to top-secret

0:39.3

U.S. military bases and a highly sophisticated early warning system against a nuclear surprise attack.

0:45.9

The U.S. Air Force personnel had T-shirts which named their location on one of the Aleutian Islands,

0:51.3

Shemir, with the words, in large letters,

1:01.4

Shemia, it's not the end of the world, but you can see it from here. It was a U.S. Air Force joke,

1:06.0

but part of our human fascination for the end times, the biblical book of Revelation,

1:10.6

the Second Coming of Christ, Armageddon, or the end of human existence, whatever you want to call it.

1:11.1

All these ideas have informed and intrigued religions, philosophers, and ordinary humans for

1:17.1

centuries, right up to now, when we consider the possibility of a nuclear Holocaust,

1:22.0

unchecked global warming, or some other species-threatening disaster. Well, Nostradamus was unavailable, but to give his views

1:30.4

on the bunker today, we have someone even better, the author and journalist Tom Phillips,

1:34.7

his new book is called, and I'm quoting here, a brief history of the end of the fucking world.

1:40.3

How long have we got, Tom? I mean, we've got 30 minutes to talk about it, but can we get through it without the end actually happening?

1:46.8

Well, I mean, I was very concerned when this book was coming out that, you know, I just wanted to get at least a couple of weeks of sales before it all became too topical, basically.

1:54.5

That was my hope. Yeah, there are deadlines and deadlines, aren't there? Yeah, some deadlines are a little bit more terminal than others.

2:03.0

Well, I have to say, first of all, I am fascinated by the topic, and secondly, I laughed a lot,

2:07.8

which is two things you don't expect to say about the end of the world, perhaps.

2:11.3

But, well, maybe you'd expect the fascination.

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