Apartheid: An Introduction w/ Ashley Fataar

Guerrilla History

Henry

History, Education

4.8 • 622 Ratings

🗓️ 17 November 2023

⏱️ 68 minutes

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Summary

In this crossover episode that we have done in collaboration with our sister podcast RevLeft Radio, we bring on Ashley Fataar to provide a primer into Apartheid in the South African context, and where we also begin to explore some of the parallels to the apartheid that the settler-colonial state of Israel is enforcing in occupied Palestine today. This is a good introduction to the topic, and we plan on getting everyone in the RevLeft family (Breht, Henry, Adnan, & Alyson) together in the coming weeks to do a deep dive into apartheid in South Africa and where we can further explore these connections to what we are seeing today! Be sure to listen to this conversation to prepare for that coming conversation, and be sure to subscribe to Guerrilla History, RevLeft, and Red Menace wherever you get your pods.

Ashley Fataar is a long time socialist activist and writer based in South Africa. If you would like to get in touch with Ashley, you can reach him via email at [email protected].

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0:00.0	Hello everybody and welcome back to Rev Left Radio.
0:08.9	Today's episode is kind of a little collaboration between Rev Left and our other sister podcast,
0:14.0	Gorilla History.
0:15.1	And in that vein I have on Henry, so me and Henry are going to be interviewing Ashley Fittar
0:19.5	about South African apartheid, how it rose, what its internal dynamics were, eventually how it ended, and how its legacy still lives on in South Africa today.
0:29.7	Now, I want to make it clear that this episode is a really good primer.
0:33.7	It's a 101 introduction to this issue, specifically because we are going to do more work on this
0:41.1	issue. We wanted to have a nice, relatively brief introductory conversation with a very knowledgeable
0:47.1	expert on the overview of South African apartheid, so then we can move into some of its more detailed dynamics going
0:57.3	forward. So I think at some point in early to mid-December, me, Henry, perhaps Allison and
1:03.8	Adnan are all going to have a sort of Rev Left family get together where we sort of dive into
1:09.6	the depths of South African history, South African
1:13.4	apartheid, and really focus on pulling out lessons from that history that can be applied,
1:20.3	in particular, to the Palestinian National Liberation struggle.
1:23.8	And what we can learn from this previous instantiation of apartheid that fell within some of our lifetimes, and what we can learn from this previous instantiation of apartheid that fell within
1:28.4	some of our lifetimes and what we can what we can learn from that and apply in the Palestinian
1:34.8	context. So this is a really interesting and important introduction. And it's only that,
1:40.1	but it's a good one, an introduction to South African apartheid with Ashley Fattar.
1:46.5	This episode was helped set up by our friend Leo Zilig, who is at the review of African
1:51.6	political economy. I know Brett, you reached out to me and said, Henry, I'd like to have an
1:56.5	episode of Rev. Left that focuses on this topic of South African apartheid and parallels to Palestinian
2:02.9	apartheid. And I said, great topic. Something I've been thinking about as well, but I don't have a
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