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🗓️ 18 December 2025
⏱️ 52 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | The way to get the most out of a wintering is to lean into it |
| 0:04.8 | and to let its full scope visit us because it is something that will profoundly profoundly change us. |
| 0:12.7 | It's a shedding of an illusion, I think. |
| 0:15.6 | And it's the experience of one life falling away and the next life emerging. |
| 0:25.4 | Music of one life falling away and the next life emerging. Hi, this is Monica Packer and you're listening to About Progress, where we are about |
| 0:30.3 | progress made practical. |
| 0:33.6 | Right now, most of my listeners are firmly planted in the winter season. But what if your |
| 0:39.8 | season of life is making you feel not at all that firm or planted? This is what we call |
| 0:46.5 | wintering. These seasons of our lives when we break down, burnout, or step back. And these |
| 0:53.0 | moments are not failures to avoid, but are instead necessary |
| 0:56.9 | transformations to lean into. We spend so much of our lives trying to stay on, productive, presentable, |
| 1:03.7 | successful. But what if we move through the winter season, whether literal or figurative, |
| 1:09.1 | by accepting its invitation to slow down, to rest, to retreat, |
| 1:13.8 | to ponder, and to reconnect with ourselves and with others. |
| 1:18.4 | Today's guest best-selling author Catherine May believes that when life slows us down, |
| 1:23.6 | whether through burnout, illness, disappointment, or unexpected change, or even seasonal shifts. |
| 1:29.7 | It's not the end of growth. It's what is preparing us for it. |
| 1:34.0 | I wanted to re-air this episode as the capstone to 2025. |
| 1:38.7 | Not only is it my personal favorite interview from the year, more on that in a minute. |
| 1:43.5 | It's an imitation of sorts as you |
| 1:45.7 | move fully into the literal winter season. I don't know what 2025 held for you, but I'm sure it wasn't |
| 1:52.9 | easy. I don't know what 2026 will bring for you, but I'm sure it will bring moments where you are |
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