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AP 746: The Wisdom of Wintering: Why Your Hard Seasons Matter and How to Move Through Them || with Katherine May

About Progress

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Education, Self-improvement, Health & Fitness, Mental Health

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🗓️ 18 December 2025

⏱️ 52 minutes

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Have you ever considered that the most profound growth happens in the stillness of life's winters? Katherine May's concept of "Wintering" challenges us to view these quiet times not as setbacks but as necessary periods for renewal and introspection. It's about recognizing that slowing down and stepping back can rejuvenate our spirits. By appreciating these quiet seasons, we allow space for personal growth and the reinforcement of our core values. Reflecting on these ideas made me realize how often I've resisted slowing down, seeing it as counterproductive. Yet, in embracing rest and retreat, we can find contentment in being enough, even amid apparent inertia. These quiet times are invitations to connect deeply, both with ourselves and with those around us, paving the way for transformative change and a renewed sense of purpose. Sign up as a Supporter to get access to our private, premium, ad-free podcast, More Personal. Episodes air each Friday! More for Moms Conference use code “LISTENER” for $20 off Leave a rating and review Check out my ⁠workshops⁠! Follow About Progress on YOUTUBE! Book Launch Committee Free DSL Training Full Show Notes This episode is brought to you by Cozy Earth, get up to 40% off at ⁠⁠⁠Cozy Earth⁠⁠⁠ with code "COZYPROGRESS" and by goPure Beauty, get 25% off @goPure with code PROGRESS at https://www.goPurebeauty.com/PROGRESS #goPurepod Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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The way to get the most out of a wintering is to lean into it

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and to let its full scope visit us because it is something that will profoundly profoundly change us.

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It's a shedding of an illusion, I think.

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And it's the experience of one life falling away and the next life emerging.

0:25.4

Music of one life falling away and the next life emerging. Hi, this is Monica Packer and you're listening to About Progress, where we are about

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progress made practical.

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Right now, most of my listeners are firmly planted in the winter season. But what if your

0:39.8

season of life is making you feel not at all that firm or planted? This is what we call

0:46.5

wintering. These seasons of our lives when we break down, burnout, or step back. And these

0:53.0

moments are not failures to avoid, but are instead necessary

0:56.9

transformations to lean into. We spend so much of our lives trying to stay on, productive, presentable,

1:03.7

successful. But what if we move through the winter season, whether literal or figurative,

1:09.1

by accepting its invitation to slow down, to rest, to retreat,

1:13.8

to ponder, and to reconnect with ourselves and with others.

1:18.4

Today's guest best-selling author Catherine May believes that when life slows us down,

1:23.6

whether through burnout, illness, disappointment, or unexpected change, or even seasonal shifts.

1:29.7

It's not the end of growth. It's what is preparing us for it.

1:34.0

I wanted to re-air this episode as the capstone to 2025.

1:38.7

Not only is it my personal favorite interview from the year, more on that in a minute.

1:43.5

It's an imitation of sorts as you

1:45.7

move fully into the literal winter season. I don't know what 2025 held for you, but I'm sure it wasn't

1:52.9

easy. I don't know what 2026 will bring for you, but I'm sure it will bring moments where you are

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