Welcome to About Progress, I'm Monica Packer, a regular mom and recovering perfectionist

who uncovered the truest model to dramatic, belasting personal growth.

Its progress made practical.

Join us to leave the extremes behind and instead learn how to do something to grow in ways

that stick.

If you're having moments of resentment, anger, or that kind of, I feel stuck feeling

come up in your life, I highly encourage you to get to know yourself better in an exploratory

way, meaning outside of goals and resolutions.

That's what we do with our do something list, and if you want a guide and tons of resources

we're free on how to make your own, go to aboutprogress.com slash DSL.

One of my favorite things about being a parent is seeing my kids create from their own

songs in the piano to art projects, galore, which I admit sometimes I also hate because

of the cleanup, to writing their own novels.

It's less though about what they create, it's how they create.

While there's still some overwhelm and self-criticism going on with certain kids, and I feel

like they're just born with that sometimes, overall when I see my kids create, I see an

abandonment of fear and of ego, and I see an embracing of making something new and fun

and different and weird and beautiful.

Isn't it sad that so many of us lose that somewhere along the way to adulthood?

I know I did.

My guest today is Brooke Schultz, and she said something in the interview I'm about to share

with you about how creativity is the backdoor to personal development.

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