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Stanford University campus and over these last days since Peter and I last

Converse there has been a major event in Congress and the

representatives Stefani putting Q&A to three esteemed presidents of the

elite universities comparable to Oxford.

That would be MIT, the University of Pennsylvania, and Harvard.

And all three presidents have been found wanting.

One president has now resigned, along with the chairman of the board of her university,

that would be the University of Pennsylvania.

As of now, MIT is putting out an announcement that its board backs its president despite the remarks that we can all see on video.

And at Harvard I have no clarity of the concern, but it continues to be a major source of disorder between the alumni, the donors, the

board, and the faculty of Harvard. There's a letter that's been circulated among Harvard faculty said to have 500 signatures on it.

Essentially the letter is very blunt.

It says we will not bend outside an interference.

That would be alumni and donors outside an interference

at Harvard.

Peter, your thoughts about the exchange

between Representative Stephanica and the three presidents

when you first saw it?

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