Anthony Hernandez & Caio Borralho talk middleweight pecking order

UFC Unfiltered with Jim Norton and Matt Serra

Ultimate Fighting Championship, Zuffa LLC

Grappling, 868329, Brazilian Jui Jitsu, Combat, Jim Norton, Sambo, Dana White, Stand-up, Bjj, Sports, Fight, Mma, Sports News, Ufc, Zuffa, Striking, Fighting, Judo, Wrestling, News, Combat Sports, Boxing, Matt Serra, Comedy

4.5 • 2.4K Ratings

🗓️ 21 August 2025

⏱️ 54 minutes

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Summary

Matt Serra and Jim Norton welcome top middleweight contenders Anthony Hernandez and Caio Borralho to discuss the 185-pound title picture after Khamzat Chimaev’s win. Hernandez recaps his submission victory over Roman Dolidze, previews his recently announced UFC Vancouver bout vs. Reinier de Ridder, and shares a laugh with Matt about their mutual appreciation for certain… ‘plant-based’ recovery methods. As someone also there in Chicago for Chimaev’s win, Borralho assesses his place in the title queue and what it might take from him in September’s UFC Paris headliner against Nassourdine Imavov to seal his place as Khamzat’s rightful challenger. Plus, Matt shares his excitement to wake up early for UFC Shanghai’s sneakily action-packed card — including a high-stakes grappler’s delight set between Brian Ortega and Serra-Longo’s own Aljamain Sterling.

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0:00.0	I mean, Fluffy just overwhelmed him, bullied him, dragged him all around the fence.
0:04.0	You never seen anybody do this to somebody as big and powerful as Belize
0:08.0	and Fluffy made it look easy by weaponizing cardio.
0:11.0	We have a submission by Rare Naked Chook for your winner, Anthony Fluffy Hernandez. Let's see who is the scariest in this earth. Carl, the natural for Haleo. Oh Hello! Yo!
0:45.3	Welcome to UFC unfiltered.
0:48.3	Please tell me that's on video.
0:51.3	I've never been happier.
0:55.6	I'm made for a fucking podcast. We're dangerous.
0:58.2	Listen to me.
0:58.8	We're out of it.
1:02.6	Welcome to UFC Unfiltered, a UFC and Fanatics original production.
1:07.9	A lot to talk about to tonight, Matt.
1:10.7	Yes. Amazing fights to promote for this Saturday in Shanghai. But we have a great guest today.
1:21.1	Probably.
1:21.9	And also Fluffy Anthony Hernandez. I know that's not how you say.
1:28.4	I'm just saying his nickname at his name.
1:30.0	I know he doesn't, he's not introduced as Fluffy Anthony, is here.
1:35.0	Fluffy, man.
1:36.2	What's up, dude?
1:38.2	Congratulations on your last one, Fluffy.
1:41.0	Thank you.
1:41.4	I appreciate it, man.
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