Hello and welcome back to the show. I'm Justin Brielly with you for unbelievable.

The program that brings you conversations that matter every Saturday here on Premier

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It's another week in the world of lockdown here in the UK. I don't know how yours is

going but I hope the show brings you some interest. We're not going any feedback today actually

because we're going long with today's edition of the program. It's Sean McDowell and John

Steingard. He'll be joining me, John Steingard of Hawk Nelson. Talking about his recent

de-conversion and well, you're going to have a fascinating conversation with Sean about

that on today's show. Don't forget that you can find out more about unbelievable. The

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free. If you simply subscribe to the newsletter, it's the book in conversation with some of

my favourite conversations with high profile guests like Jordan Peterson, Rob Bell, Richard

Dawkins, Darren Brown and many others. If you support the show, we'll send you our

USA conference on video as well. There are all the links from the program, premierchristianradio.com,

forward slash unbelievable. We want to do something as well in the near future on obviously the

big issue that's been convulsing the world recently, the death of George Floyd, the Black

Lives Matters protests that have been going on. I'm not a huge fan of the hot take. We

are waiting for the dust to settle a little bit on this. Your thoughts are more than welcome.

Do send them into me to the email address or via our social media to let me know who

you think we should be bringing on the show. We will try and make sure we bring you something

of significance in the not-too-distant future to discuss the issues that have been rising

up to the surface. One thing that I did share on my unbelievable

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