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slash G.O. I'm John Batchel, continuing my conversation with Professor Eleanor Baraklov, who is an historian, a BBC broadcaster, as well as working at the Baas Spy University.

The book is Embers of the Hands.

It talks about the Viking Age, roughly 750 AD to 1100 AD,

but both sides, there's no certainty here

because the magic of the Viking Age collides with the magic of the Christian conversion process.

We're now going to the geography, and the geography includes a big battle, a big battle, and a graveyard.

That is a way of talking about the endings.

We begin with the big battle in 1066.

Harold of England, Harold of Norway, and William of Normandy.

We need to establish, Eleanor, that Normandy is as Norse as anything in England, correct?

And Raleigh was the founder of Normandy.

So we're talking about the Vikings at war with the Vikings, the traditions of all.

Yes, pretty much. Yeah, so Norman literally means Northmen. What's interesting is it's a bit

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