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Everything Happens with Kate Bowler

Anne Lamott: Loved and Chosen

Everything Happens with Kate Bowler

Everything Happens Studios

Health & Fitness, Religion & Spirituality, Society & Culture

4.84.7K Ratings

🗓️ 2 March 2021

⏱️ 41 minutes

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Summary

What do you do with a world that is full of things to fear? People we won’t please. Kids who die. Parents who don’t change. Writer Anne Lamott doesn’t sugar-coat a single, terrible thing, but knows the kinds of truths we can stand on. In this conversation, Kate and Anne talk about the good, strong hopes we can reach for. That we are loved and chosen. And friendships and snacks hold us together when we're feeling lost. For discussion questions, transcript, and show notes: https://katebowler.com/podcasts/anne-lamott-loved-and-chosen/ To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

I'm Kate Boehler and this is Everything Happens.

0:04.0

I'm a historian, author, aggressively fast walker, but lately in a world that promises endless

0:10.9

progress, even now in a pandemic, I've realized I just need to be a person.

0:18.4

It's hard to give up on the feeling that the life you want is just out of reach, if

0:23.7

only you tried.

0:26.0

Make this food, find that relationship, just get the kids graduated or the parents this

0:31.6

kind of care.

0:33.4

Only then will I feel different, better, whole.

0:39.3

But that's not the way this works.

0:42.1

When I was 35, I was diagnosed with stage war cancer, and here's the very fun thing

0:47.1

about that.

0:48.4

The world loves you better when you are shiny, when you are cheerful, when you still

0:53.7

believe that your best life now is right around the corner.

0:57.9

I've written multiple books on the history of the idea that you can always fix your life,

1:03.1

so I'm going to be the one to say it.

1:05.7

There are some things we can change and some things we can't, and it's okay that life

1:12.0

isn't always getting better.

1:14.7

We can have beauty and meaning, community and love, and we will need each other if we're

1:21.2

going to tell the truth.

1:23.4

Life is a chronic condition, and there's no cure for being human.

1:34.2

We are not disillusioned anymore.

1:36.9

Our little darlings, our pet theories, but what we deserve and how this might go are gone.

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