This is the interview, a new show from the New York Times.

I'm David Marquesie.

On one level, Anne Hathaway's new movie, The Idea of You, couldn't be more straightforward.

It's an adaptation of a novel about a woman who winds up in a relationship with a much younger singer in a boy band. The movie's an update of the kind of story. a where young women find themselves in entirely new situations and have to

adapt to high pressure and glamorous worlds. The twist for the new movie

though is that Hathaway's playing a four-year-old divorce mom so she's coming in a little less

starry-eyed about the whole thing. But the idea of you also works on another more complicated

I think you could even say meta-level.

It's a movie about women pushing against societal expectations of them

and getting hate for it.

And that is something Hathaway knows a bit about. A decade ago, around the time she won an Oscar for Le Miserab, the internet turned on

Anne Hathaway. People decided inexplicably that she was an inauthentic driver or something

like that.

And the unfair backlash earned a nickname of its own,

Hatha hate, you might remember it.

And it makes even less sense to me now than it did then.

But as Hathaway told me, for her the past decade has been about

letting go of people's opinions and expectations, including those of

interviewers like me, but that hasn't made her any less fun to talk to.

In some ways it's made her more interesting than ever.

And I think a great guest for my first episode.

Here's my interview with Ann Hathaway. Hi guys.

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