ANNA: Making Sense of the SEC's Case Against Telegram
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🗓️ 12 April 2020
⏱️ 46 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | It's prima facie absurd that a venture capital fund would buy these tokens, which have no revenue stream attached to them, no rights whatsoever attached to them, etc. |
| 0:15.0 | And that are styled as ultimately becoming a consumer good. |
| 0:19.0 | It's prima facie absurd that they would buy those as a long-term investment |
| 0:22.7 | rather than to flip them very quickly in the secondary market, because that's just not the kind of thing |
| 0:28.0 | venture capital funds do. |
| 0:31.9 | Hi, everyone. I'm CoinDesk reporter Anna Baidakova, and I'm speaking today with two legal experts. |
| 0:38.8 | Philip Mustakis, a council with the law firm, Seward and Kissel. |
| 0:43.1 | He also previously worked at the SEC. |
| 0:45.6 | And Gabriel Shapiro, who has just recently joined Belcher, Smolin and Van Loo, |
| 0:50.9 | which is also read like BSV law as a partner. Congratulations, Gabriel. And you might also |
| 0:58.0 | be following him on Twitter as Lex Knot. Thank you for being here, gentlemen. We are talking |
| 1:04.0 | today about one very particular case, Telegram and its court battle with the U.S. Securities and |
| 1:10.6 | Exchange Commission. |
| 1:11.6 | It's been a big case. Lawyers in the blockchain space have been following it closely. |
| 1:17.6 | Two major trade groups, the Chamber of Digital Commerce and the Blockchain Association expressed their support for Telegram. |
| 1:24.6 | And it looks like the final decision on this case when it's made will have |
| 1:28.2 | implications for the entire industry. On March 24th, the New York Southern District 4 judge, |
| 1:35.4 | Kevin Castel, agreed with the SEC lawsuit and prohibited Telegram from issuing and distributed |
| 1:41.5 | the tokens for its own blockchain. |
| 1:48.8 | And first of all, I think I'd like to hear your perspective of this, Philip, |
| 1:51.8 | as you used to be with the SSEA Division of Enforcement. |
| 1:58.0 | If we had to explain it to somebody totally not following the regulatory agenda, |
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