Anduril Founder Trae Stephens on Our Modern Defense System
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Gwyneth Paltrow
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🗓️ 2 June 2026
⏱️ 67 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | When you are pioneering anything or introducing new ideas to the culture, you get criticized. |
| 0:09.0 | You do? |
| 0:10.0 | Yeah. Did you hear about that? |
| 0:12.0 | I didn't find the one. I found someone I respected and we made it the one. |
| 0:17.0 | In a sort of longing kind of view of love, people understand each other as if by magic. |
| 0:22.4 | Nothing in itself is addictive on one hand. And in the hand, everything could be addictive if |
| 0:27.2 | there's an emptiness in that person that needs to be filled. I now know that nobody changes |
| 0:32.5 | until they change their energy. And when you change your energy, you change your life. |
| 0:38.1 | I'm Gwyneth Peltro. This is the Goop Podcast, bringing together thought leaders, culture |
| 0:44.4 | changers, creatives, founders and CEOs, scientists, doctors, healers and seekers. Here to start |
| 0:51.6 | conversations, because simply asking questions and listening has the power |
| 0:56.1 | to change the way we see the world. Here we go. Hello and welcome to the Goop podcast. I'm |
| 1:03.4 | Gwyneth Peltro. My guest today is someone you almost certainly wouldn't expect to find on this |
| 1:09.5 | show, and that's exactly why I invited him. |
| 1:13.0 | Trace Stevens is the co-founder of Anderl, one of Silicon Valley's most provocative AI defense companies, |
| 1:20.2 | and a partner at the Founders Fund. |
| 1:22.8 | He operates in a world that feels pretty far from the conversations we usually have here on the Goop |
| 1:28.2 | podcast. But this year, I'm really making a conscious effort to seek out people whose perspectives |
| 1:34.2 | genuinely challenge my own. I wanted to have Trey on because I really admire Trey for his |
| 1:42.0 | brilliance. He's known as one of the best investors on the planet. And also for his |
| 1:48.9 | values, he's a very faith-based man. And I learned so much from talking to him. I think I almost envy |
| 1:55.7 | people who have faith of that depth. Trey and I cover a range of topics today, including the core mission of |
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