Andrew McCarthy and Thaddeus McCotter discuss James Comey potentially being a target of the Trumpadministration, focusing on charges of lying to Congress under the broader false statements statute (1001), rather than traditional perjury. Proof of "willfu

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🗓️ 2 October 2025

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Andrew McCarthy and Thaddeus McCotter discuss James Comey potentially being a target of the Trumpadministration, focusing on charges of lying to Congress under the broader false statements statute (1001), rather than traditional perjury. Proof of "willfulness" is required, which signifies a heightened mental state and understanding of illegality. They also analyze the Supreme Court's delay in ruling on President Trump's effort to remove Federal Reserve Governor Lisa Cook, deferring oral arguments until January.Preview: Andrew McCarthy and Thaddeus McCotter discuss James Comey potentially being a target of the Trumpadministration, focusing on charges of lying to Congress under the broader false statements statute (1001), rather than traditional perjury. Proof of "willfulness" is required, which signifies a heightened mental state and understanding of illegality. They also analyze the Supreme Court's delay in ruling on President Trump's effort to remove Federal Reserve Governor Lisa Cook, deferring oral arguments until January.

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0:23.7	This is CBSI and the world. I'm John Batchelor. I welcome my good colleagues,
0:29.4	Andrew McCarthy of the National Review Online, and Thaddeus McHodder of American Greatness.
0:34.6	We go immediately to the question of James Comey, now said to be a target of the Trump
0:41.0	administration because of his conduct. It's all up in the air. But it comes to a detail in Andy's
0:47.9	most recent story at the National Review Online. The charge, the federal charge, is perjury statute, section 1621 of the penal code,
0:59.3	Title 18, U.S. Code. Andy, a very good evening to you. I read that out and am surprised to learn
1:06.2	that it is in perjury. Please explain. Good evening to you.
1:11.4	Good evening, John and Thaddeus.
1:13.1	Well, perjury is lying under oath, which is what Comey is accused of doing.
1:19.7	However, the case is not brought under the traditional perjury statute, 1621 in the federal code, it's brought under the more
1:30.5	catch-all, broader false statements statute, which is 1,001 of the penal code.
1:41.3	I think the reason for that, John, is that the perjury statute is written in a way that's
1:49.1	designed to capture perjury committed in judicial proceedings, and Comey is accused of lying to
1:56.7	Congress.
1:58.0	Now, that statute, the perjury statute 1621 that you mentioned has been interpreted
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