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Earth Ancients

Andrew Gallimore: Death by Astonishment, Confronting the Mystery of the World's Strangest Drug

Earth Ancients

Cliff Dunning

Society & Culture, Social Sciences, Science

4.4 • 1.5K Ratings

🗓️ 9 July 2025

⏱️ 78 minutes

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Summary

For fans of the compelling critical and investigative style of best-selling authors Graham Hancock and Brian Muraresku, the first detailed account of the history and science of the world’s strangest and most mysterious drug - DMT.

DMT is the world’s strangest and most mysterious drug, inducing one of the most remarkable and yet least understood of all states of consciousness. This common plant molecule has, from ancient times to the modern day, been used as a tool to gain access to a bizarre alien reality of inordinate complexity and unimaginable strangeness, populated by a panoply of highly advanced, intelligent, and communicative beings entirely not of this world.

In a story that begins in the Amazonian rainforests and ends somewhere beyond the stars, Andrew Gallimore presents the first detailed account of the discovery of DMT and science’s continuing struggle to explain how such a simple and common plant molecule can have such astonishing effects on the human mind. The history of the drug involves many fascinating characters from the scientific and literary worlds ― including legendary ethnobotanist Dr. Richard Schultes; renegade beat writer and drug aficionado William S. Burroughs; philosopher and raconteur Terence McKenna; and the high priest of the 1960s psychedelic revolution, Dr. Timothy Leary. In the end, the story of DMT forces us to reconsider our most basic assumptions about the nature of reality and our place within it.

ANDREW R. GALLIMORE is a chemical pharmacologist, neurobiologist, and writer, and one of the world’s leading experts on psychedelics. He is the author of two books on the science of psychedelics, Alien Information Theory: Psychedelic Drug Technologies and the Cosmic Game and Reality Switch Technologies: Psychedelics as Tools for the Discovery and Exploration of New Worlds. He lives and works in Tokyo.

GRAHAM HANCOCK is the author of major international non-fiction bestsellers including The Sign and the Seal and Fingerprints of the Gods. His books have sold more than seven million copies worldwide and have been translated into thirty languages. His public lectures, radio and TV appearances, including the TV series Quest For The Lost Civilization and Flooded Kingdoms of the Ice Age, as well as his strong presence on the internet, have put his ideas before audiences of tens of millions. He resides in the UK.

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0:00.0

Welcome to Destiny.

0:15.8

Now here's your host, Cliff Dunning.

0:19.8

Back in 2022, I was co-sponsor of contact in the desert down in Palm Springs, Los

0:29.4

California.

0:31.6

And we had a number of fantastic guests at that program, Graham Hancock, Randall Carlson,

0:39.8

Whitley Streber.

0:40.5

We had a lot of really good people on the program.

0:43.8

And one of the really special, new interviews I did was with Andrew Gallimore, and he is, he is a clinical pharmacologist and neurobiologist who had written a number of

1:01.2

interesting books at that time.

1:03.5

And I had interviewed him for a book called Alien Information Theory.

1:08.2

And he was doing fabulous work with DMT.

1:13.0

And what had happened is that he was discovering that the people that were in

1:19.4

these clinical trials were experiencing aliens, alien environments, alien encounters,

1:26.5

and highly, highly advanced interactions with alien types.

1:34.2

And he was in contact to the desert because, you know, that's an alien UFO, UAP conference.

1:41.0

And he was just fabulous.

1:42.6

And when we finished the interview, one of the last things he had

1:46.9

spoken to me about was these clinical trials where a handful of people were selected for

1:54.8

extended use of the DMT drug through intravenous feed.

2:07.9

And I was just blown away because they were trying to extend the time that these subjects were able to interact with these aliens.

2:12.2

And the goal was to bring back data, to bring back technology in the same form that native shaman

2:21.8

would use ayahuasca, which has DMT in it, to connect with the spirit world, and bring

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