Hello and welcome to How to Fail with Elizabeth Day, the podcast that

celebrates the things that haven't gone right. This is a podcast about learning from our mistakes and understanding that why we

fail ultimately makes us stronger because learning how to fail in life actually means learning how to succeed better. I'm your host, author and journalist

Elizabeth Day, and every week I'll be asking a new interviewee what they've learned from failure.

Andy Oliver is a straightforward force for good in a complicated world.

A gifted television presenter, she's also a warm and enthusiastic human who loves to share her passions with other people.

Although she's always been drawn to cooking, she put on her first dinner party at the age of 12,

Andy actually started out as a singer in a band

with her best friend Nena Cherry before making the move into broadcasting. She is now

the beloved hosts of great British menu on the BBC and presents the Sky Arts Book Club alongside little old me.

But as well as this packed filming and reading schedule, she also somehow finds the time to run her much

loved restaurant, Andes were Dadly Kitchen in Hackney, East London.

Her chocolate-curried goat apparently took 25 years to perfect. She is one of the

hardest workers in the business, a woman's woman to her very core and someone whose kindness and humour I've come to value more than I can put into words.

Cooking, music, acting, for me they all come from the same place, she says.

You have to do it with your soul.

Andy Oliver, my darling soul sister.

How are you?

I'm all right apart from this ridiculous cough, but I'm good you know Elizabeth. I've had quite the year. I've had a really interesting year where I am expanding into new and I started writing. I know I'm excited about it.

We talk about that openly now. Yeah we can talk about it openly.

We can't, yeah I haven't announced it yet, but we can talk about it. I don't care.

This is now for a couple of months. Yeah, it's not it's not out till

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