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Ancient Bone Proteins May Offer Insight On Megafauna Extinction

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🗓️ 24 June 2025

⏱️ 19 minutes

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Summary

Collagen from a fossilized bone fragment can identify the animal it came from. And, some new info about our galaxy’s eventual extinction.

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0:00.0

Hey, I'm Flor Lichtenen and you're listening to Science Friday.

0:07.0

Today in the show, wombats the size of hippos, 10-foot-tall kangaroos, and a new technique to identify mysterious biological samples.

0:16.2

In museums and universities over the world, there are so many of these bags of bone scraps that no one

0:22.8

really has looked at since. So there's still a lot of work to do. If you think about Australia,

0:31.9

one thing that probably comes to mind are the animals that live there, from koalas to kangaroos to a surprisingly large

0:40.3

selection of creatures that can kill you. But once upon a time, the Australian landscape had

0:45.5

some even weirder fauna, like a marsupial with immense claws and a small trunk, or a slow-moving

0:53.7

kangaroo-like creature that walked on all fours,

0:56.5

a wombat, the size of a hippo.

0:59.4

They're all extinct now, and researchers are trying to figure out why.

1:02.7

Writing this week in the journal Frontiers in Mammal Science, researchers describe one tool they're using to hunt for clues.

1:09.1

It's called ZooMS, and it uses samples of ancient

1:12.5

protein, not DNA, to identify what animal a bone came from. Joining me now to talk about it is Dr. Carly

1:20.7

Peters. She worked on this project at the Max Planck Institute of Geoanthropology in Yena, Germany,

1:26.0

and is now a postdoctoral researcher at the

1:28.0

Interdisciplinary Center for Archaeology and the Evolution of Human Behavior at the University

1:32.9

of Algarve in Ferru, Portugal. Welcome to Science Friday. Thank you so much for having me. It's

1:37.8

great to talk to you more about what we've been doing. Well, you had me at Giant Wombats,

1:42.3

obviously. Tell me a little bit about them.

1:45.2

So basically, the animals that we studied are all extinct now. And they're all giant versions of

1:51.9

what you could still find in Australia today. So you would have the giant wombat for a giant

1:58.5

kangaroo. And you also have creatures that don't really have anything

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