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Americans revere the creation of wealth. Anand Giradardas wants us to examine this and how it

shapes our life together. He knows from the inside the web of Wall Street and Silicon Valley,

think tanks, foundations, and convenings from Ted to the Aspen Institute, and book and speaking

circuits and media that confer power. I'd interviewed Anand before and wanted to draw out the

generative aspect of a confrontational and thought-provoking message he's now bringing.

About the implicit moral equations behind a notion like when-when, and the moral compromises

in cultural consensus we've reached without reflecting on it about what and who can save us.

And I actually think we're now at a place where we are ripe, much as we were 100 years ago when

we were in the first-gilded age and you had these great inequalities and great new technologies

on a lot of dislocated people and a lot of anger and a lot of philanthropy. And what that

gave way to was an age of reform. I think we are ripe for a new age of reform in American life

with these basic questions of what's the relationship between work and healthcare? How do we do social

mobility in an age of the gig economy and you know iPhones? What is our relationship to place as

companies and as workers? There's some big questions that in some ways are almost spiritual questions

about the economy and about our society. I'm just a tippet and this is on being.

Unand Garedardas is a journalist and author and he's been a foreign correspondent and columnist

for the New York Times. His new book is Winners Take All, the Elytia raid of changing the world.

I, as you know, because you've been on the show before, I am at who always, but I usually start

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