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Somebody's Gotta Win. Welcome to the New Year, 2024. We are officially in the election cycle yes we are

presidential election year and we will soon get into chat about Iowa less than

two weeks the caucus is on January 15th and then into the general

election with our special guests who I will talk to about whether Biden can get the

me voters to come out and vote for him. But first I just

want to weigh in on the Jeffrey Epstein news. It's been coming out unsealed files in

the Virginia Jiffray Roberts suit against Galane Maxwell.

I have hosted two podcasts on Jeffrey Epstein.

I've spent over a year investigating the story.

I worked on the second season of Broken seeking justice and power the Maxwell's on Galane Maxwell and I traveled around with Virginia Jufrei and other victims as they tried to find witnesses who could help

corroborate their claims and prove that they were sex trafficked.

It's a heart-wrenching, difficult story to tell, but there's one thing I took away from it all it was that

Jeffrey Epstein was not discreet about what he was doing and and while a lot of people are saying wait there aren't any new names that are coming out. We know, you know, Prince Andrew, Bill Clinton,

Donald Trump were his friends, they all deny it. There's no new list of new leaders,

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