I'm Kate Winkler-Dawson. I'm a journalist who's spent the last 25 years writing about True

Crime.

And I'm Paul Holes, a retired cold case investigator who's worked some of America's most complicated

cases and solve them.

Each week, I present Paul with one of history's most compelling True Crimes.

And I weigh in using modern forensic techniques to bring new insights to old mysteries.

Together, using our individual expertise, we're examining historical True Crime cases

through a 21st century lens.

Some are solved and some are cold. Very cold.

This is Bairied Bones.

Hey Paul.

Hey Kate, how's it going?

It's going well. It's hectic.

Oh yeah.

Is hectic? Are you not hectic too?

You know, I get a little hectic. It's more of the scramble at the last minute Christmas

gifts.

But for the most part, no. I just kind of keep doing what I do.

So in my head, I'm picturing you, venturing out with a large axe into the woods, just you

and Kora, and chopping down your own tree is like a lumberjack.

Is that true or do you just go to like rambles and pick up a tree?

No, you know, I have a, it's a reasonably nice artificial tree that is pre lit.

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