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The Astrology Podcast

An Astrological Librarian, with Philip Graves

The Astrology Podcast

Chris Brennan

Philosophy, Spirituality, Society & Culture, Religion & Spirituality

4.7 • 1.7K Ratings

🗓️ 3 August 2025

⏱️ ? minutes

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Summary

In episode 502 of the podcast, I'm joined by astrologer and historian Philip Graves to talk about his work as an astrological librarian and the publication of his new book, Technical and Planetary Developments in Astrology. This is the first volume in a new series, Graves' Studies in the History of Astrology, which showcases the fruits of his decades-long project to build one of the largest and most comprehensive private astrological libraries in the world. Technical and Planetary Developments in Astrology and is available now on Amazon and from other booksellers. The Life of an Astrological Librarian We begin the episode by discussing Philip’s journey into astrology and how he began amassing his vast collection of astrological texts. His library includes not only modern books but also rare original editions from as early as the 16th century, alongside an extensive collection of astrological journals, periodicals, and almanacs. We delve into the fascinating world of antiquarian book collecting, touching on topics such as: The importance of first editions. The challenges of preservation, including issues like "foxing," "worming," and rebinding. How to handle very old books. The limitations of older, poor-quality digital scans and abridged reprints, and the value of comparing them to original source texts. Research from the Library A major theme of our discussion is how having access to this wide range of primary sources allows for a more accurate and nuanced understanding of astrology's history. Philip’s collection serves as a massive research database, enabling him to trace the development of astrological concepts through time. His new book is a collection of essays that demonstrates the value of this approach. Some of the historical questions we explore from his research include: The Development of Uranus: How did astrologers in the early 19th century figure out the meaning of Uranus? We look at surprisingly early and accurate delineations from journals in the 1820s and 1830s, showing the empirical process astrologers used to determine its significations. The Outer Planets: We contrast the empirical approach used for Uranus and Neptune with the more mythological approach applied to Pluto shortly after its discovery in the 20th century. The Meanings of the Houses: Philip’s book contains a detailed survey of the significations of the 12 houses, tracing their continuity and changes from the Hellenistic tradition through the Medieval and Renaissance periods. The History of Minor Aspects: We discuss the timeline of how harmonic aspects were developed, starting with Kepler and being gradually adopted and expanded upon by later astrologers. The Origins of Sun-Sign Astrology: Research from Philip and others has pushed back the origins of newspaper Sun-sign columns much earlier than the commonly cited 1930s date. Ultimately, our conversation highlights how astrology has never been a single, unchanging system, but a dynamic tradition that has always been growing and evolving. Find Out More You can find Philip’s work, including high-quality scans of rare texts and a secondhand bookshop, on his website: Astrolearn.com His new book is titled Technical and Planetary Developments in Astrology and is available now on Amazon and from other booksellers. Timestamps 00:00:00 Intro 00:00:34 Philip's library and background 00:10:13 Condition and handling of old books 00:17:03 Early significations about Uranus 00:28:08 Uranus in Gemini and the US 00:34:50 Did astrology die out in the 17th century? 00:37:50 More early Uranus significations 00:45:16 Assigning names of gods to planets 00:57:05 Early treatments of Neptune and Pluto 01:06:32 Schism between modern and traditional astrology 01:12:07 Survey of the houses 01:32:47 Lilith 01:36:09 12 letter alphabet 01:49:28 Alan Leo 02:00:59 Laws against fortunetelling 02:03:03 Development of minor aspects 02:19:51 History of astrological journals 02:20:46 Astrological traditions from different languages 02:23:28 Scans and secondhand books on Philip’s website 02:37:14 Academia and astrology 02:43:20 Graves’ natal chart 02:52:10 Conclusion Watch the Video Version of This Episode https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wOxIVYKVD8M - Transcript A full transcript of this episode is available: Episode 502 transcript Listen to the Audio Version of This Episode Listen to the audio version of this episode or download it as an MP3:

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0:00.0

Hey, my name is Chris Brennan and you're listening to the Astrology Podcast.

0:04.0

Joining me today is astrologer Philip Graves, and we're going to be talking about his work as an

0:08.7

astrological librarian, as well as the publication of the new book that he just came out with,

0:14.0

which is the first in a new series that's titled Technical and Planetary Developments in Astrology

0:19.8

as part of his series, Graves Studies in the History of Astrology, Volume 1.

0:25.0

So, hey, Philip, thanks for joining me today.

0:27.5

Hey, Chris. Thank you for watching me on your show.

0:29.9

Yeah, I've been wanting to interview you for many years, and we've talked about it off and on over the years,

0:35.6

but it was always, we were always waiting until your book

0:39.1

came out and now the days finally arrived. So congratulations on the release of the book.

0:44.3

Thank you. Yes, it's been quite a long wait, but worth waiting for, I hope.

0:48.4

Absolutely. I love the book. It's really great and it really showcases the importance and the value out of what

0:57.9

you've been building over the course of the past, I think, 30 years now in that you've been

1:03.2

building what I believe is probably the largest astrological library and collection of

1:09.3

astrological texts in the world, would you say that's

1:12.8

probably a fair assessment? I can only be sure that it is one of the largest recorded ones.

1:19.4

I don't know the exact extent at this point in time of Jen's Kaley Institute collection,

1:25.2

for instance, and that's probably going to continue to

1:27.8

grow quite rapidly. I'm content with it being one of the largest in the world and one of the

1:33.2

largest in Europe. More than that, I can't be certain. For sure, for sure. Well, as far as I know,

1:40.3

it's definitely one of the most comprehensive ones. And so tell me a little bit about yourself.

1:47.8

So you have been, when did you start building this library?

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