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The Behavioral Observations Podcast with Matt Cicoria

An Analysis of Bad Leadership Practices: Session 208 with Paulie Gavoni

The Behavioral Observations Podcast with Matt Cicoria

Matt Cicoria

Science, Mental Health, Skinner, Behaviorism, Behaviorconsultant, Aba, Behavioralpsychology, Health & Fitness, Appliedbehavioranalysis, Autism, Acceptanceandcommitmenttherapy, Fba, Social Sciences, Verbalbehavior, Bcba, Functionalassessment, Discretetrial

4.8648 Ratings

🗓️ 2 December 2022

⏱️ 62 minutes

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Summary

I'm really excited to chat with Dr. Paulie Gavoni again on the podcast. As long time listeners know, he's been on the show many times, and always brings a down-to-earth, practical point of view to what we do as Behavior Analysts.

In preparation for a talk at the recent Hoosier Association for Behavior Analysis event, Paulie did a deep dive on characteristics of bad leadership. It went over very well, and we thought it would make for an informative podcast episode. And Paulie presents his findings in his own unique and fun manner. I won't spoil it here, so be sure to hear him go through it all.

I should also note that Paulie and I talk all the time and our banter may have drifted into what I'll refer to here as 'middle school language.' Nothing terribly profane mind you, but I did want to give a heads up because I know many of you listen to the podcast while ferrying your kids around.

On a different note, Paulie and I, along with our colleague Anika Costa, are working on a really fun project for behavioral professionals in public school settings. We are hoping to have it out in the first quarter of 2023, so stay tuned for that.

Here are the links:

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Transcript

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0:00.0

Hey, everyone. Welcome to session 209 of the behavioral observations podcast. I am really excited to

0:06.2

bring back my good buddy, Dr. Polly Gavoni, to the podcast. As longtime listeners know, he's been on

0:11.1

the show many, many times, and he always brings a down-to-earth practical point of view to the things

0:16.4

we do as behavior analysts. Here's the context for this show.

0:22.4

He recently gave a talk at the Hoosier Association of Behavior Analysis event, and in

0:27.6

preparation for that talk, he did a deep dive on the characteristics of bad leadership and

0:32.5

talked about this concept of positional authority, and apparently it went over really well.

0:39.4

So he reached out to me and suggested that we talk about it on behavioral observations. So here we are. I won't spoil it or go into it too much

0:46.0

here. So you're just going to want to listen to it in Polly's own words. And this is a really

0:52.6

fun podcast because Polly and I do talk all the time.

0:56.4

And so there's a bit of a kind of casual banter, much like the show with Matt Broadhead a few

1:00.8

sessions ago. On a, I guess, related notes, being talking all the time, one of the reasons that

1:07.6

we do connect frequently is because both Polly and I, along with our colleague,

1:12.8

Anika Costa, are working on a special project. And I don't want to spoil that here either,

1:20.0

but it should be hopefully ready to go by the first quarter of 2023. So stay tuned for that.

1:27.1

We have links to all the things that we mentioned in the show notes,

1:30.7

so go over to behavioral observations.com and look for session 209. And the easiest way to get the

1:37.8

show notes, honestly, is just to sign up for the email list. So just go to the website. There'll be a

1:43.4

little box in the sidebar.

1:46.1

There might be one of those pop-up things you can sign up for as well. It makes it really easy.

1:51.3

And the show notes for every single episode go directly to your email inbox. So I highly

1:58.1

encourage that. That way you never have to go to behavioral observations.com again,

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