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Nick thanks for coming on. It's a great honor to speak to you. I don't think we've ever met in person, but a long time

of your work and you've really sparked an international conversation.

Yeah, with the whole AI thing, yeah.

Now it's been fascinating in the years since

Super Intelligence came out in 2014, just how much has changed.

What used to be a very fringe topic. I mean back then, at least in academia,

the whole idea that AI's could potentially achieve general intelligence someday and maybe super

intelligence and that that could post various kinds of risks like was

dismissed the science fiction or futurism and they were like in the world in total,

maybe like a handful of people scattered around the internet

trying to work on the AI alignment problem.

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