Let it happen the way it should.

You show up. You take one step forward.

You do that first thing. Now it's going to unlock a door.

Now you're going to do the next step. Another door unlocked.

Let it happen as it should.

And I promise you opportunities you didn't even know exist are going to come your way.

Hey guys, this is Kathy Heller. Welcome back to the Kathy Heller podcast.

We have such a good episode for you today.

One of my friends and one of my mentors is here the delightful Amy Porter field.

People don't know my whole story.

I think some of you maybe have heard parts of my story.

But what people don't realize is that before I ever started a podcast,

I was a songwriter and how I got into the online space is I took Amy Porter field to class on how to teach a course.

And I started a course for songwriters.

And it was one of my songwriting students that suggested maybe you should have a podcast.

So not only was the course the seed of what actually brought me to you and brought me to this work.

But that course completely fundamentally changed my whole life.

It allowed me to have a relationship with people in the online space.

It allowed me to get my footing and create an online business.

And Amy in her kindness and in her integrity and in her smarts.

And in her wisdom was able to help me see just very simply how I could step by step.

And create what turned out to be the most extraordinary version of a life.

...