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I can hear a buzzard in the background.

We're in Keridigian, the County of Wales,

and we're here to explore the subject of rivers,

with the nature writer Dr Amy Jane Beer,

whose latest book is called Flow,

and details her exploration of rivers around the UK.

And with the Welsh musician Owen Shires, who lives here by this very river.

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