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Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Amy Edmondson (organizational behavioral scientist)

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Armchair Umbrella

Tv & Film, Music, Comedy

4.668.3K Ratings

🗓️ 7 September 2023

⏱️ 110 minutes

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Summary

Amy Edmondson (Right Kind of Wrong: The Science of Failing Well) is a professor and author. Amy joins the Armchair Expert to discuss why she was drawn to studying organizational learning, what psychological safety is, and how systems exist to make societies better. Amy and Dax talk about why working groups can have different interpersonal climates, the definition of learning behaviors, and what the three types of failure are. Amy explains that vulnerability can actually be a desirable trait, how to take smart risks, and why apologies exist. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

Welcome. Welcome. Welcome to armchair expert experts on expert. I'm the Duchess of Duluth, and I'm joined by Mr. Milford.

0:06.5

Hello.

0:07.6

Hello. Today we have Amy Edmondson on and she is a professor at Harvard Business School known for her research on

0:16.6

psychological safety. Yes. She has a very cool book out right now called right kind of wrong. The science of failing well.

0:25.3

Yeah, this was really interesting and to be clear, cycle out which we get into, but it's probably good to note now.

0:32.2

Psychological safety is not safe spaces. Yes. Right from colleges that we've heard about. Yeah, it's more like feeling free to

0:42.1

speak. Make errors. Actually, it's almost

0:45.0

antithetical to the it could be, but not, but yes, but it is and it's not. Please enjoy Amy Edmondson.

0:54.6

He's in our church.

1:09.1

Welcome. Welcome. We're both wearing chunks. Yeah. We didn't even plan it today. Look like a little child.

1:18.6

Sure do. Little boy. You're almost in a onesie. Almost true. Yeah, it's true. I mean, I'm monochromatic. Yeah, that's the same. We're all monochromatic.

1:32.5

You know what I underestimated? I'm recovering from poison ivy. Oh.

1:36.5

And it's visible on my legs and I didn't think of that when I wore my tiny little shirt. Sure. It's clearly on the way out.

1:42.6

Yes, but it was gruesome. Well, there's that, but on my thigh, it was, it was so

1:48.5

gnarly looking that a friend was over and she was looking at my leg and she said, what is that?

1:54.9

And I said, if I told you I had flesh eating bacteria, would you believe me? And she said a thousand percent.

2:00.4

I think I believe you said you at Ebola. I mean, it was just. It looked bad. Yeah, it was, it was bad.

2:05.2

Where'd you get it? Great question. Two theories. Either Martha's vineyard or

2:11.0

Wellesley ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, that's chooses. Yep. Went for a little walk with people's dogs and my kids got out of

2:17.7

a brush and then I went out and got a either one. You live in Cambridge. I live in Cambridge.

2:22.0

Are you familiar with Wellesley? I'd never been there. What an adorable place. It is adorable, isn't it?

2:26.8

And I don't know if you saw the campus at all that Wellesley College, but it's beautiful. I didn't.

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