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Amicus | When Trump Hits New Jersey, This Lawyer Hits Back

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41.1K Ratings

🗓️ 16 August 2025

⏱️ 53 minutes

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Summary

Law firms, universities, and businesses are bending the knee to the Trump administration at the slightest threat. Amid this shocking cowardice, blue states have been a bastion of defiance against the president’s escalating power grabs—with attorneys general leading the way. Mark Joseph Stern talks with New Jersey Attorney General Matthew Platkin, who has been on the frontlines of this battle since Day One.  Want more Amicus? Join Slate Plus to unlock weekly bonus episodes with exclusive legal analysis. Plus, you’ll access ad-free listening across all your favorite Slate podcasts. You can subscribe directly from the Amicus show page on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. Or, visit slate.com/amicusplus to get access wherever you listen. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:30.0

It's so funny because when you look at the guys, that's never a topic of conversation. Yeah.

0:35.2

What you look like. It's all. Did you watch the football last night?

0:38.7

It's never about, what's your skincare routine?

0:40.8

Whereas women walk into a room and because we've been taught to be pitted against each other,

0:46.2

not always, but sometimes there's, oh my God, you know, I can't.

0:49.7

It's a bit of a barrier.

0:50.4

Yeah, yeah.

0:51.1

And it shouldn't be there.

0:52.2

We should be trying to change that stereotype,

0:55.0

believing that there is space for everybody.

0:58.0

In life, you don't really know when you're being tested.

1:13.3

We are in a test right now.

1:14.8

We're in a test as a nation, and I think we're in a test as a profession.

1:17.8

And the only way we get through it is by believing that we can have an impact

1:21.4

and that we can keep doing things that slowly but surely get us through that period.

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