Amicus | There Is No Musk-Trump Feud Without The Roberts Court

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🗓️ 7 June 2025

⏱️ 49 minutes

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Money talks, and sometimes it speaks as law by fiat from the highest court in the land. In this episode of Amicus, Dahlia Lithwick delves into the impact of money on the judiciary and, eventually, on, democracy with Michael Podhorzer, a senior fellow at the Center for American Progress. They discuss how the many faces of big money in America, currently personified by Elon Musk and Donald Trump, have shaped the Supreme Court and government regulations. They explore the implications of recent court decisions, the downfall of unions, and the crucial role of collective action in preserving democracy. Michael Podhorzer also writes a weekly newsletter, Weekend Reading. This is part of Opinionpalooza, Slate’s coverage of the major decisions from the Supreme Court this June. The best way to support our work is by joining Slate Plus. (If you are already a member, consider a donation or merch!)Also! Sign up for Slate’s Legal Brief: the latest coverage of the courts and the law straight to your inbox. Delivered every Tuesday. Want more Amicus? Join Slate Plus to unlock weekly bonus episodes with exclusive legal analysis. Plus, you’ll access ad-free listening across all your favorite Slate podcasts. You can subscribe directly from the Amicus show page on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. Or, visit slate.com/amicusplus to get access wherever you listen. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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1:12.6	I'm Dahlia Lithwick, and this is Amicus, Slate's podcast about the courts and the law and the Supreme Court.
1:29.6	It's not just the big headline things, but it's becoming a thoroughly corrupt system where it's not just too big to jail, but it's too big to bother following all the laws that have protected our health and the environment and our rights at work. That's where we're headed.
1:38.1	While this is in no way a show about Donald Trump and Elon Musk and their spectacular matrimonial breakdown this
1:46.0	week, complete with public threats and tantrums and whatever the social media equivalent of
1:51.7	good old-fashioned table flipping would look like. Let's pause to reflect that without the
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