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Amicus: Clarence Thomas and the Billionaires

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🗓️ 6 May 2023

⏱️ 47 minutes

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Summary

After weeks of controversy, piled upon intrigue, heaped with scandal and topped with crisis at the Supreme Court, it can be hard to get your bearings. What’s illegal, what’s unethical, what’s just a bit hinky? And what does it really mean for an institution that is about to hand down decisions that reach into every part of our lives, from justice to climate, from youtube to universities? On this week’s Amicus, Dahlia Lithwick is joined by Lisa Graves from True North Research. Lisa ia a veteran investigator of the dark money spigot that has been flooding the Supreme Court and rewarding some of the justices, and the causes and people close to their hearts. If you can’t see the woods for the trees, Lisa will paint you a picture. And that painting will, of course, include; Clarence Thomas, Leonard Leo, Harlan Crow and Mark Paoletta. In this week’s Amicus Plus segment, Dahlia is joined by Slate’s Mark Joseph Stern to talk about the possible end of Chevron deference the impacts for the administrative state, the Texas abortion case that is a case study in SB8 working exactly as it was intended, and why it is so puzzling that the Justices won’t rescue themselves from the ethics quagmire that’s sinking trust in SCOTUS. Sign up for Slate Plus now to listen and support our show. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

The rules that people are asking for are not partisan rules.

0:08.1

There are rules that would apply to all judges, no matter who appointed them, no matter

0:11.9

which president chose them or whether Leonard Leo had anything to do with their selection.

0:16.5

These are rules that apply to everyone.

0:23.0

Hi and welcome back to Amicus.

0:25.3

This is Slate's podcast about the courts and the Supreme Court and the rule of law.

0:29.5

I'm Dahlia Lithwick, that's my beat at Slate and I don't know about you, but I don't

0:34.1

think I've ever seen more drama around the highest court of the land than I have seen

0:40.8

in these last few weeks.

0:42.9

And this week we have had yet more revelations about judicial failures to disclose matters

0:47.7

pertaining to their personal finances and, oh, secret, spousal income.

0:52.8

And of course, we had a Senate Judiciary Committee hearing that probed this question

0:57.5

of ethics rules for the justices.

1:00.1

The danger isn't that rogue justices are operating without ethics.

1:05.9

It's that Democrats aren't winning every fight and they find that reality intolerable.

1:12.8

I've been disappointed by Supreme Court opinions too, but my Democratic colleagues should

1:19.9

fill out a hurt feelings report and move on for the sake of the Constitution.

1:26.8

Later on in the show, Slate's very own Mark Joseph Stern will stop by to talk about

1:31.1

some of the issues that also bubbled over this week, including the possibility that the

1:36.3

era of Chevron defences over, meaning that courts may need no longer defer to agency

1:43.2

interpretations of their own rules.

1:45.7

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