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Hi, I'm Ravi Agrawal, Foreign Policy Magazine's editor-in-chief. This is FP Live.

Thank you. Foreign Policy Magazine's editor-in-chief. This is FP Live. Welcome to the show. We're at a crossroads when it comes to Russia's war in Ukraine.

From some quarters, there's a call for just giving Kiev everything it needs. Let it fight

and win this war now. There's another faction that

argues for staying the current course, a middle ground of sorts, of balancing escalation with the

dangers of a protracted conflict. And there's a new emerging front which argues that Ukraine is

but a distraction for America

and that Washington should instead focus on China.

What is the right path?

My guest this week is a proponent for giving Ukraine more support, not less.

Philip Breedlove is a retired four-star Air Force General who led U.S. forces in Europe and served as

NATO's supreme Allied commander from 2013 to 2016. Today, he teaches at the Sam Nunn School of

International Affairs at Georgia Tech. Breedlove makes the case for why a protracted war, something that

goes on for a few years, would be far

more dangerous than the risk of a short-term escalation. He also says that the West, principally

Washington, can decide the course of this war. You'll want to hear his thoughts on all of this.

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