Here on Sworn, we're always looking at the bigger picture of justice and the questions that linger long after a crime.

That's why I want to share a new show with you, America's Crime Lab.

It's hosted by journalist Alyn Lance Lesser and created with Othrum, the pioneering DNA lab that's solving cases others can't.

In this episode, Aileen takes us inside one of the most shocking crimes in recent memory,

the Idaho student murders, and unpacks how forensic genealogy is reshaping what we know about the case.

Here's a preview.

He just kept saying, Ethan's a preview. He just kept saying,

Ethan's not here.

And I was like, what?

And that takes a very long time to process.

I still heard the words, and it was not registering inside of my head.

What was, you know, what really actually was happening. You worry about things. You worry about your kids,

you know, getting in a car accident or being roofied in a bar or, I mean, you know, whatever, right?

This is not one that ever plays out in your head.

In November of 2022, the campus of an Idaho college woke up to a shocking crime. Four young students had been murdered in their bedrooms.

Police had no suspects and little evidence.

That's when law enforcement decided to try something new and track the killer in real time using their own DNA.

This is America's Crime Lab. I'm Alyn Lance Lesser.

Producer Catherine Venalosa is here.

And Catherine, the murder of these students at the University of Idaho has been splashed all over the news.

But there's still so much about this case that hasn't been made public.

And actually, Alyn, I wasn't even sure if we were going to be able to talk about this case. Authrum started working on it really early on, but there's been a gag order,

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