This is an I-Heart podcast.

David Clinger is our guest.

He resides in the greater Brenham area now.

His son's the head football coach at Somerville High School.

His other son is the offensive coordinator there.

You probably remember the name if you've been in Houston or followed football for very long.

He was a star

quarterback at the University of Houston in the early 90s. He was third runner up for, second runner

up for the Heisman Trophy, first round draft pick of the Cincinnati Bengals, ended up going to the

Raiders, but his elbow was blown by then and came home and decided he really wanted to learn the Bible. And now he

teaches others and teaches people how to learn the Bible. He, of course, in the meantime, went and got

a PhD at seminary in theology. David, let me ask you a question. You were talking earlier about theological studies and the types of people who go there.

I have heard it said of people I've known who were theologians that went to Harvard

Divinity School that there aren't actually any Christians there.

That it's sort of like you go to a literature school and there's no writers there,

that there are people who reduce it to something that does not involve any faith.

Do you find that to be the case?

Yes.

Well, yeah.

We have a, in our desire to make the Bible more acceptable because of what we were

talking in the last the last session that you know the Bible calls to suffering

you know James is going to say considered all joy my brethren when you

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