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The Michael Vary Show is on the air.

Stephen Sunday is our guest as a former Capitol City Police Chief, a position he held on

January 6, 2021.

I wanted to make the point with his background.

This guy's not a lightweight.

He's got a BS and MS from Johns Hopkins University, a pretty highbrow, rigorous academic background. He has an MA and Homeland Security

from the Naval Postgraduate School. This guy is thoughtful about strategy and operations and logistics

in law enforcement. It's what he's devoted his life to. This isn't somebody who rose through the ranks because they

checked the right box that they weren't a white male. He is, in fact, a white male. This is a guy

who, by all accounts, and I think he has demonstrated, cares deeply about law and order and security

and preserving the peace. And that's to be respected.

So now we get to January 6th.

I know you've told this story because I've seen you tell this story.

I wish they'd let you tell your story in public.

But let's walk through.

I won't interrupt you. Why don't you tell the story as you know it of January 6th?

I will.

I think your listeners will definitely be surprised about what they're about to hear because a lot of people hear about, you know, Trump offering National Guard and what happened the National Guard and stuff like this. You're going to hear the truth. This truth has been upheld by congressional hearings. I come with the facts. I'm 30 years law enforcement. I'm not going to say something that I can't back up. So let's take you back to the Sunday before January 6th. January 3rd, it was the first day of the 117th Congress. Regardless if it falls on a weekend, January 3rd is always going to be the first day of a new Congress when it comes into session. We do all the swearing-ins of the members of Congress, so it's a big day up on Capitol Hill. I had been kind of watching, you know, the crowd size that were coming in, and mind you, the intelligence I was getting, and the intelligence is a whole other issue of what the intelligence I was getting, didn't say anything about any type of coordinated attack of the Capitol, any kind to threat to the federal billings or to the Capitol or to members of Congress, nothing like that. I was just concerned about the size of the Capitol, any kind of threat to the federal billings or to the Capitol or to members

of Congress, nothing like that. I was just concerned about the size of the crowd and the number of

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