This is an IHeart podcast.

It's that time.

Lock and load.

The Michael Vary show is on the air.

Yeah. The Michael Derry Show is on the air. Some of our best show prep comes from listeners.

That's why I read every email.

The perspectives people have when there's a fire and a firefighter writes in, or where

there's a response to a crime and police officers will write in.

Or when we're in the middle of war and veterans will write in.

Sometimes it is that you've discovered a podcast and the host would be an interesting guest

and why they would be an interesting guest.

So Scott sent me an email.

I don't know Scott.

And he says,

Zarr,

I'm emailing about a recent book release from a fellow named Dr. Greg Gifford.

It's called Lies My Therapist Told Me.

I think he would be an amazing interview on your show, and it's the sort of things you like to talk about.

He went on as to why this would be a particularly good guest from a Christian counselor, professor,

and podcaster, a critique of the mental health establishment from his perspective. And I said,

you have my attention. Therefore, our guest is Dr. Greg Gifford. Welcome to the program.

Thank you for having me. Why did you need to write a book? What was the purpose? What did you

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