Welcome to Conversations That Matter Podcast.

I'm your host John Harris for part two of an interview that I did with Pastor Joel Webbin

on the topic of Assurance of Salvation.

We're talking about this book, Am I Truly Saved, A Study Through First John,

by Pastor Joel Webin, and it's a great book. I would suggest getting it, go to the

info section if you are interested and you can find a link there where you can purchase a copy.

I, you know, after we turned off the camera and stopped recording,

Pastor Joel and I were talking a little bit about some things we didn't bring up in the interview that I wanted to

just mention to you and they're important things I think to realize when we talk about this

subject of assurance the Corinthian Church, Pastor Joel brought this up to me and it's a great point.

The Corinthian Church was a church that had messed a lot of things up.

In fact, if you were going to point to any church in the New Testament and say, well, that's a church that's

off the rails, you probably say, or most likely say the church at Corinth.

And in 1st Corinthians, we see Paul treating the church at Corinth as if they are a church, as if they are a church, as if they're Christians, they're believers, yet they're milky.

They have problems, they have sin issues.

I mean they even had problems, I mean think about this, going to the temple prostitutes as was their previous

habit when they were pagans and they're still doing that at least some of them and

Paul is correcting them he has a sharp edge to the correction that he brings

but yet at the same time he's not saying well you just must not be saved and I think that's an important thing to

remember and as I think through the process of church disciplined outlined in

Matthew 18 the whole entire process is designed to bring about repentance among true believers.

And if someone is not a true believer, they won't repent.

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