Welcome to The Lost Debate Show for Politically Ecclectics. I'm Robbie Gupta. And in a little bit,

we're going to have on Eric Schlosser for one of my favorite interviews we have ever done.

Eric is the author of Fast Food Nation, a book that many ways changed my life. Reef for Madness.

He is the producer of Food Incorporated and then Food Incorporated, too, which just came out.

And we talk all about the food industry, antitrust issues within the meatpacking industry and food industry generally, just where food comes from, and a whole bunch of other things.

And so I'm excited for that interview.

Before we get there, let's talk about some breaking items.

This morning, Donald Trump's defense team rested its case in the hush money trial,

and Trump opted not to testify, which is not surprising, not because it's him, but because people

tend not to testify unless they really have to. His lawyers really presented one witness,

a guy named Bob Costello, who was there to impeach the credibility of Cohen, and things got

testy with him, but we won't go into that because we've done a lot on that trial.

The judge has sent the jury away.

They'll come back on Tuesday for closing arguments, which means we'll potentially get a

verdict next week or most likely the week after, which is incredible to think about that we're

now reaching the end of that trial, which will probably be the sole criminal trial that happens

before the election. What's going to happen? Nobody knows the people who are in the courtroom

who could read the jury body language and just see how like the arguments are going down at a

sort of tactile level in there probably have a little bit more to say than than anybody else.

The problem is there's so much baggage around this case where, you know, people who are covering

this either really want to see Trump go to prison or really, really don't. And so I think

we're left here with sort of

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