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The Tikvah Podcast

Alon Arvatz on Israel's Cyber-Security Industry

The Tikvah Podcast

Tikvah

Judaism, Politics, Religion & Spirituality, News

4.6620 Ratings

🗓️ 28 September 2023

⏱️ 59 minutes

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Summary

Israel's success in military cyber-operations and cyber-security, from disrupting Iranian nuclear development to covert intelligence gathering, is well known. It has given birth to a cluster of companies that have made Tel Aviv a global hub for cyber-security.

Alon Arvatz is CEO and co-founder of PointFive, a new cybersecurity start up based in Tel Aviv, and the author of a new book, The Battle for Your Computer: Israel and the Growth of the Global Cyber-Security Industry. With Mosaic editor Jonathan Silver, he talks here about some of the factors that make Israeli companies so competitive in cybersecurity, how military and intelligence applications of cyber technology have changed over time, how he thinks they will change in the future, how these technological capabilities relate to policy and politics, what kind of regulatory oversight is appropriate for the industry, and much else.

Musical selections in this podcast are drawn from the Quintet for Clarinet and Strings, op. 31a, composed by Paul Ben-Haim and performed by the ARC Ensemble.

Transcript

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0:00.0

On June 7, 1981, 8 F-16 fighter jets, each carrying two, 2,000-pound bombs, departed from an Air Force base

0:17.0

near Eilat, heading southeast so that they could avoid Jordanian airspace. They then turned

0:22.3

north and headed through Saudi Arabia toward Iraq, where, avoiding radar detection, they bombed Saddam Hussein's

0:29.5

nearly operational nuclear facility. The pilots then made their way back to Israel, and Operation

0:35.0

Opera, one of the boldest and most brilliantly executed operations

0:39.0

in the history of military aviation, was successfully completed.

0:43.5

Think for a moment about all that went into that operation. Not only the 8 F-16s, but also

0:49.3

6 F-15 support planes that accompanied them, and the rescue helicopters, and additional planes,

0:55.8

sitting on the tarmac, waiting to take off at a moment's notice to rescue potentially

1:00.2

downed pilots. In 1981, in order for Monachem Begin's government to neutralize a nuclear threat

1:07.1

from a hostile power, it would have to risk an operation that complex, that daring,

1:13.1

that expensive, dozens of lives on the line, potentially dozens or even more civilian casualties

1:18.8

on the other side. Millions upon millions of dollars in equipment. This operation was a success,

1:24.9

thank God. But to aim for that success, you'd have to be willing

1:28.0

to sacrifice an awful lot. Now let's fast forward to 2010, some three decades later. Israel faces

1:34.5

another adversary, equally bent on developing the nuclear capacity to threaten Israel existentially.

1:40.4

But now, rather than strap ton-sized bombs onto fighter jets and fly them in radio silence,

1:47.0

weaving under and around radar sensors, the Israelis neutralized that threat by means of a computer virus.

1:53.7

It was developed and deployed from an air-conditioned office building.

1:58.4

We're in a world now in which a new battlefield has opened up,

2:01.6

not only the sea, land, and air, cyberspace is a new theater of war. Israel's done very well in

2:07.8

that theater, and its military investment and military success has given birth to startups, and now

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