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Top Traders Unplugged

ALO10: How to Manage $50bn ft. Jason Morrow

Top Traders Unplugged

Niels Kaastrup-Larsen

Business, Business News, Investing, News

4.8670 Ratings

🗓️ 31 August 2022

⏱️ 68 minutes

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Summary

Today, we are joined by Jason Morrow, Deputy CIO at Utah Retirement Systems, for a conversation on how portfolio management is carried out at a large pension fund. We discuss how Morrow approaches the objective and constraints of URS’s portfolio and the realized volatility over time, how they manage the challenges of an inflationary environment and balance their portfolio to mitigate risk, how they find the right mix of public and private equities and their approach to absolute return strategies. We also address the process of assembling a team of managers and evaluating quant strategies, how to mitigate behavioural biases when selecting manager, cultivating talent as a CIO and much more.

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Episode TimeStamps:

00:00 - Intro

03:35 - Introduction to Jason Morrow

08:02 - Investment objective and constraints of URS’s portfolio

13:21 - How does inflation affect URS's portfolio?

20:27 - Building and balancing the portfolio

24:29 - Public vs. private equities

31:22 - Using multiple asset allocating strategies

38:06 - Their approach to selecting managers

41:15 - Evaluating quant strategies

45:51 - Behavioural biases in manager selection

50:27 - Return expectations setting for alts

55:42 - Mastering...

Transcript

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0:00.0

You have to be willing and able to re-evaluate.

0:09.0

For a very long time, our portfolio has been relatively stable, but we've also been in a relatively tight band of regime, largely driven by interest rates.

0:20.0

I would say that interest rates are probably the primary factor that would change all of the potential to make change.

0:25.9

And that's something that's been said internally in our organization for many years is if we were to go back tomorrow to an interest rate period where, you know, interest rates are 8%.

0:37.1

That's going to have really different, longer term,

0:41.0

10-year implications for asset classes.

0:43.0

So I think the way that we try and build it is there's no portfolio that can be built

0:48.2

on a permanent basis.

0:50.3

That said, unless there's strong reason to believe that the regime has actually shifted you really

0:56.9

need to kind of stick to it imagine spending an hour with the world's greatest traders imagine learning

1:04.8

from their experiences their successes and their failures imagine no moreaders Unplugged, the place where you can learn

1:14.1

from the best hedge fund managers in the world so you can take your manager, due diligence,

1:18.8

or investment career to the next level. Before we begin today's conversation, remember to keep

1:23.9

two things in mind. All the discussion we'll have about investment performance

1:27.6

is about the past, and past performance does not guarantee or even infer anything about future

1:32.9

performance. Also understand that there's a significant risk of financial loss with all investment

1:37.7

strategies, and you need to request and understand the specific risks from the investment

1:42.4

manager about their product before you make

1:44.5

investment decisions. Here's your host, veteran hedge fund manager, Niels Kostrup Larson.

1:55.1

For me, the best part of my podcasting journey has been the opportunity to speak to a huge range of extraordinary

2:01.6

investors from all around the world. In this series, I have invited one of them, namely Alan

2:06.6

Don, to host a series of in-depth conversations on the topic of what it takes to be a world-class

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