Welcome to edition 121, 121.

I will kill an old fellow podcast with me Rachel Fethburn and Kiri Pritcham McLean

just before we start doing usual disclaimer.

This isn't hero worship.

We do this podcast because we make sure interesting serial killers.

As long as we are doing this podcast, it stops us from writers from in prison.

This is a Q and A episode.

Yes, a special episode. We usually do about these, about once a year.

Yeah. So we were overdue and to have a chat with you guys. And we've got loads of

questions to get through. Judging by some of them might make it once every five years, quite

frankly.

Also, just before we started the record, we were chatting.

And I don't know how long we've been working with Owen now, our producer, who's fantastic.

But it's so funny that he's become as dead behind the eyes as us, because we were working out

what episode it was.

And we're like, oh, yeah, the last one was David Bain

who was like,

oh God,

thank God you don't have to talk

about him again. Poor Owen has to listen to it again. Yeah. He listens to it once and they has to listen to it again. So poor old Owen. Shout out Owen. Also I've, um, It's 10 a.m. now. I'm not allowed to eat until at least two o'clock. And I'm always starving when I wake up in the morning. I've got to go, you know you change doctors, moved house, changed doctors. And for some reason it's like, well, we need to do another health MOT. I'm fine. It's any missions and blood tests.

I don't want them. But it's a day out. But I'm not allowed to eat until I've had them done.

So I'm just like, ah. Did I tell you about when my partner had like, basically he got like,

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