We're going to talk all about witchcraft on today's edition of the paranormal podcast with Jim Herald.

Welcome to the paranormal podcast. I am Jim Herald and happy holidays to all of you out there

and we appreciate it very, very much. You're taking time of this busy time of year to listen to our show and we've got an excellent one for you today with Deborah Blake and we'll be to that in just a moment.

I just wanted to take a moment seeing that we're in the holiday season to tell you

that if you listen via Apple Podcasts or you know someone who listens specifically via the Apple

Podcast app that we now have an option for gifting a subscription to our Plus Club, Spooky Studio Plus, on Apple Podcast.

And this is only for the Apple Podcast version.

So if you know someone who's a listener, but isn't a subscriber to Spooky Studio Plus on Apple Podcast,

then I want to encourage you to gift them a subscription this year.

Apple gift cards are available almost anywhere you buy gift cards and these will work for a subscription in the Apple Podcasts app too.

So you just buy them the gift card and they can use it to purchase a subscription to

Spooky Studio Plus. Again, this is only on the Apple Podcasts version in the Apple

Podcasts app and I appreciate it very very much and of course if you say

hey I just want to become a member Jim I'm not going to gift it I'm going to give a gift

to myself well you can do that very easily.

Go to Jim Heraldplus.com, click on the banner and there you'll have all the details for all the different versions of the Paranormal Plus Club, Jim Herald Plus.com.

And we thank you so much. And now on to this interview with the very interesting Deborah Blake.

Well we have one of our favorite guests

on the subject of witchcraft,

and there's a recent book out,

it's called Llewellyn's Little Book of Witchcraft, and we're talking with Deborah Blake, the author,

and she's been on our shows many times. She is the author of over a dozen books on modern

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