Elisa is the compassionate, reassuring expert we all need and the one whose advice we can all use.

She's a parenting guru who helps parents let go of perfection while creating their own definition of success.

Her five principles help kids build the resilience they need to thrive.

By normalizing imperfection, she helps parents reparent themselves and become more intentional people.

Elisa is also the host of the award-winning podcast Raising Good Humans, where she shares the most effective tools every parent can use to make the parenting journey less overwhelming and more joyful.

I'm Jenna Bush-Hager. Welcome to my podcast, Open Book, with Jenna.

Yeah. I am so happy to have Dr. Elisa Pressman here. You are my favorite parenting guru. What I love about what you do is it's all sort of under the umbrella of like, let's not put more onto parents' plates. They're already full. So as you navigate this work, I wonder,

like, because many people look to you, like, what's the most common thing you hear from parents?

I just think parents are so overwhelmed.

And anybody who's talking about, like, raising kids is going to inevitably get parents

who want to do it so perfectly.

Yeah.

Otherwise, they wouldn't be taking the time to read the books or listen to the podcasts

or do the things.

Yeah.

So I have to

fight that, which is to say, like, if you're here, if you're even listening to this, I'm not

super worried that you need any of it. Yeah. Even trying, and I've said this to a friend,

I feel like you said this on the show, and the fact that you're even thinking about how to be better is enough.

It's true, because it's, it just means you're like mindful enough of the time that you're paying attention, that you care.

Like, the rest is a little bit like, I don't even want to say gravy because I don't know that it's better.

Yeah. Well, you say that good enough is actually better than perfect.

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