Welcome to the global phenomenon, Surviving the Survivor, where we bring you the best guests in all of true crime.

Here's your host, Emmy Award winning journalist Joel Waldman.

What's up, SCS Nation?

Welcome to another episode of Surviving the Survivor.

It is the podcast that promises to bring you the very best guests in all of true crime.

And sometimes we extend beyond to other mysteries in the world and a very, very special treat for you today that we're about to get into.

Now, just a quick little background.

It was back on April 30th of 2023, the Kenmore family in Las Vegas, Nevada. They called 911 to

report something, quote unquote, not human in their backyard.

Police rushed over and they took the investigation incredibly seriously,

in part because their very own officers with the Las Vegas Metropolitan Police Department

had also spotted a mysterious flashing light in the sky that same evening, which freaked out a bunch of police officers.

The reaction of the Kenmore family, if you recall the story, were all appeared to be, they all appeared to be genuinely startled by what they saw.

So were these images, these things that they were seeing, were they from somewhere beyond

planet Earth?

Well, I'll tell you what, got two guys on the show today who are going to explain why

they say, yes, in fact, that is the case these are a non-human

beings so without further ado got rotor congrats on the new uh grandchild scott yeah thank you

uh he is a world renowned crime and shooting scene reconstruction expert.

He is the owner of the evidence room, and he is on our podcast frequently as a best guest.

He also hosts the crime scene Time Machine podcast, and is it just crime scene on YouTube, Scott?

Or is it also a crime scene?

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