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Thank you. From KQVD in San Francisco, I'm Mina Kim. Coming up on forum, you may know Ali Valshi,

MSNBC host for his show Velci or for his

economic insights on NPRs here and now, but his new book, Small Acts of Courage, is about his family.

Valshia recounts his parents and grandparents' journeys from India under British rule, South Africa,

under apartheid, to Canada, sharing their experiences of living under repressive governments.

Cynicism about politics is actually a luxury of those who have never had to experience life without it, Valshi writes.

And if those people ever truly lost their ability to participate in the system, they'd never take it for granted again.

We talk with Velshi about how that applies to our current moment.

Join us.

Welcome to Forum. I'm Nina Kim.

In 2015, after leaving CNN for Al Jazeera and before starting at MSNBC,

Ali Velshi, a Canadian, started the process of becoming a U.S. citizen, the in-person interview, the test, the waiting period.

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