Hey everyone. This is Jonathan Kapart and welcome to Cape Up.

Ali Nurani is the executive director of the National Immigration Forum, so he's just the person

to talk to about the latest on DACA.

The Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals Program, instituted by President Obama, rescinded by President Trump,

but with an effective date that gives Congress time to come up with a legislative fix.

Then our conversation gets into the overall immigration issue and how Nurani believes the successful movement to end the ban on gays serving openly in the military was an epiphany moment for him and how to move forward on immigration.

Listen to what this is all about right now.

Aline Narani, thank you very much for being on the podcast.

Well, thank you very much for having it.

Okay, please bring us up to date on where things are on DACA, Congress, the president, where are we?

So we've got two hours?

No.

No.

All right, so DACA, let me just do the quick explanation of the program.

Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals.

This was a program created by President Obama in the summer of 2012 to protect about 750,000 young people from deportation.

Doesn't grant them citizenship, just grants them legal status and work authorization.

Candidate Trump ran on a platform where he promised to rescind DACA day one of his administration.

He waited till September 5th of this year to have Attorney General Sessions go out and rescind

the program.

But it wasn't a quick, you know, it wasn't like ripping the band-aid off.

What sessions said is that there's a six-month window from September 5th to March 5th, where

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