Ali Abunimah talks about Israel and Palestine and the New York Times piece blaming Russia for the hate and Islamophobia faced by Linda Sarsour and the organizers of The Women's March. But first Karen and Jamie Zelermyer talk about their award winning podcast "I Was Never There," which looks at what happened to their friend Marsha "Mudd" Ferber, a rock-club owner and low-level drug dealer who went out for an errand in 1988 — and never came home. Ali Abunimah is a Palestinian-American journalist who has been described as "the leading American proponent of a one-state solution to the Israeli–Palestinian conflict." He's the co-founder of The Electronic Intifada website and the author of 'One Country: A Bold Proposal to End the Israeli-Palestinian Impasse' and 'The Battle for Justice in Palestine: The Case for a Single Democratic State in Palestine..' Jamie Zelermyer has been a New York based Producer and Production Executive for the past twenty plus years. Currently, she is the co-host and creator of I Was Never There, a serialized eight episode non- fiction podcast, made in collaboration with Wonder Media Network. The series premiered at The Tribeca Festival in 2022 garnering a Special Jury Mention and has cracked the top 20 on ApplePodcasts. She was the VP, Physical Production at Focus Features / Rogue Pictures for six years. Prior to Focus Jamie was a Line Producer and Production Manager working on films such as Igby Goes Down, Boys Don’t Cry and You Can Count on Me. Jamie is the President of the Board of Directors of New York Women In Film and Television, and is an adviser on NYWIFT’s The Writer Lab, a program for female Writer’s over 40 funded by Meryl Streep and Nicole Kidman. In her 73 turns around the sun, Karen Zelermyer has held a multiplicity of job titles including President and CEO of a philanthropic advocacy organization, Deputy Director of an LGBTQ foundation, Development Director of a women’s social service organization, Board Chair and foundation consultant. Karen is also a life-long social justice feminist activist. She cut her activism teeth in the Vietnam anti-war movement and continues to have an unwavering commitment to the dismantling of racism and white privilege, heteronormativity and misogyny. She is the co-host and creator of the podcast I Was Never There. She also has a few degrees but that was a really long time ago. Links to "I Was Never There" podcast: Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/1crmHd7u1dLqfw9NJa82xc Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/i-was-never-there/id1619387402 Link to The Electronic Intifada - https://electronicintifada.net/ ***Please support The Katie Halper Show *** For bonus content, to support independent media & to help make this program possible, please join us on Patreon at - https://www.patreon.com/thekatiehalpershow Follow Katie on Twitter: https://twitter.com/kthalps