This is so funny because I actually said this to a girlfriend when I first met Bob.

I was like he's not good on paper.

But there's something about him.

Like you were coming out of a hard stretch of years,

but you were so clear and focused on what you wanted to be and how you were going to evolve and heal

yourself. I was like, oh like here's somebody who's really put in the work and he's very focused on

committing to that work. So you know a lot of other things have to be present like

you know sense of humor match and obvious chemistry match all those things have to be present but you know there

was this thing like like he's interested in self-improvement and he's going about it in a really

cool way.

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