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Hey, folks. Welcome to the Eric with Texas Show. It's a show and typically I have on guests on a wide variety of

subjects. Each subject is not itself wide. The subjects themselves are sometimes narrow. But over the course of time, we

cover a wide variety of subjects. That's why we call it the show about everything. Today I have the great pleasure of speaking to a journalist

Alec Klein who is a bestselling author. Yes, there's a book and yes, you may have to buy the book. This may be compelling enough that you're

going to have to buy yet another book. The title of his book is Astrumath. When it felt like life was over, folks, this is about the

art of the dance school culture. Um Alec Klein to pleasure to have you. It's an honor to be here.

You, you were a journalist with the Washington Post with the Wall Street Journal. You are an investigative journalist.

You've done a lot of women who were incarcerated with excessive sentences, gained their freedom through parole and commutation.

You've done all kinds of stuff and you're you're a straight up real journalist of the kind that I feel doesn't exist very much anymore.

What, what happened to you? My audience knows absolutely nothing of your story. I'm assuming you wrote about it in the book aftermath when it felt like life was over. So what is, what is it that happened?

I guess I should start by saying that I was a professor and I was running a center investigating wrongful convictions and false accusations.

And then suddenly I found myself on the other side where I was being accused. And in particular, I had former, some former students and staffers who accused me of mistreating them and harassing them.

But what was put out there in the public domain through the media was wildly and grossly false. The attack was led by a former employee who might have let go.

And I should add, none of the accusations included any kind of sexual interaction.

So even though it didn't come out in the media, the complaints that were actually filed with the university were kind of this hodgepodge of things. So for instance, there were students who complained about the chair that they sat in in my office.

There was a small futon chair that my little kids would sit in when they came to visit me. Some of my students said that that chair was slightly lower than my chair in my office and they called it a power differential, which was a term I hadn't really heard before.

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